tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7409329926905599325.post1283759243216916682..comments2012-10-14T07:29:15.260-07:00Comments on Daughter of Glory: Guide Me Into All Truthnot a slavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08420299328908756349noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7409329926905599325.post-12001473267524638782012-04-08T06:15:55.507-07:002012-04-08T06:15:55.507-07:00nice... :) thats a good pointing
Free Mp3 and Ly...nice... :) thats a good pointing<br /><br /><a href="http://musicsbox.com/" rel="nofollow"> Free Mp3 and Lyrics </a>Adelina Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03410345670397505624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7409329926905599325.post-70037297226349978582011-11-17T18:19:28.746-08:002011-11-17T18:19:28.746-08:00I started reading your blog to get a better unders...I started reading your blog to get a better understanding of students at Wheaton converting to the Catholic faith after being invited to -<br /><br />'Catholics and Evangelicals- How much common ground?'<br /><br /> a discussion between <br />Donald Senior/ Catholic Theological Union<br />And <br />Richard Mouw / Fuller Theological Seminar <br />was hosted by Wheaton's own Prof. Vincent Bacote <br /><br />Here are my notes:<br /><br />Donald Senior opened with what he thought the two had a lot in common:<br />- the poor<br />- the oppressed<br />- Jesus<br />- salvation<br />- role of the Church<br />- value of marriage<br /><br />Senior then stated - there are differences where we need to hear the other. A place for conviction to hold but not one of hostility. <br />- the incarnation - the word becoming flesh / the flesh being able to reveal the Divine<br />- the expression of the sacraments / forgiveness/ anointing for healing / of vocation <br />- the sacramental / the physical element: wood- oil- architecture<br />- a strong eschatology / view of the church<br />- the figure of Mary <br />- the hierarchy of offices <br /><br />Mouw followed with comments on the following:<br />We must understand the common ground we share <br />- 1- The grounding of surviving with the faith they immigrated with- marginalizing to survive<br />- 2 - The evangelical ' hang in there until Jesus returns' mentality of the early 1900's<br /> i.e.evangelical on the wrong side of race, justice, oppression <br />- 3 - Theological common ground<br />- 4 - Global realities - the church is growing most in the Southern hemisphere <br /> <br /><br /> We must respect the others right to see things differently. We ought not get hostile. We need to seek to understand.<br /><br />Mouw<br />'Evangelical will try to withdraw on an issue or strive to conquer it'.<br /><br />Senior<br />'This will be the last European pope the Catholic church will have!'<br /><br />The Topic of the Students at Wheaton converting to Catholicism did come up.<br />First with Dr. Bacote and myself before the meeting, the in response to a 'We're steak and you're breadcrumbs' discussion. And then again after the meeting between Dr. Bacote and myself. <br /><br />My conclusions:<br /><br />Conversion experiences are as different as the people having them. We welcomed the exploration. <br /><br />What is new is often very exciting and engaging. <br /><br />Discovering a fullness to ones faith can bring out passionate connections. <br /><br />It doesn't have to be OR, I can be AND. <br /><br />I saw parallels between student discovering the richness of ritual and sacrament and my growth in 'signs and wonders' while taking classes at Fuller with John Wimber.<br /><br /> The story that kept playing out in my head was......<br /><br />I grew up the son of a Dutch immigrant in a small town in WA state that was striving to hold onto the tenants of it's Reformed faith while holding on to the values of the Dutch in this new land of opportunity. There was much that seemed to threaten both. <br /><br />The town, nearly a 50 years old when was born, had 32 churches [most some near off-shoot of Reformed faith] with a population of less than 3,000 citizens. <br />As a kid, I was made aware that our church was the most theologically correct, most of the others were Okay [ Our in-laws went there] but there was one church we were forbidden to even think about. <br />It wasn't until I was 18 and in college, just a few years from attending Fuller, that I realized that church was the only Catholic church in town. <br /><br />Frankly, my concern is not for the evangelical students exploring a more Catholic faith while at Wheaton. I'm not worried about them, their connection with God.<br />What I am concerned about is their connection with their parents when they find out their son or daughter is converting. <br /><br />Many parents send their children to Wheaton to secure their faith with the faith of their fathers. And what if these parents are major donors. What will faculty and administration be able to say them.<br /><br />I left with the question of how to address the issues when the divide is ingrained and is hostile?Crow from the Coophttp://crowfromthecoop.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7409329926905599325.post-43684757784890822582011-11-16T19:11:07.490-08:002011-11-16T19:11:07.490-08:00Good point about 'said to me.' One of my f...Good point about 'said to me.' One of my first memories of Sunday School was being taught that when Jesus says to Simon, "you will be fishing for men" we were left with the clear implication he meant to include everyone as fishermen.Now, of course there is a sense in which this part of the baptismal priesthood of every Christian, but I remember being brought up with a check when I realized the "you" in the (Greek) text was singular.jdmcculloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16991041531807247116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7409329926905599325.post-16336675822368768542011-11-16T18:32:22.985-08:002011-11-16T18:32:22.985-08:00Lex organdi,
lex credendi,
Lex vivendi.Lex organdi,<br /><br />lex credendi,<br /><br />Lex vivendi.Dynannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7409329926905599325.post-55205995487087101702011-11-15T03:20:54.407-08:002011-11-15T03:20:54.407-08:00I love to ask the following question to Evangelica...I love to ask the following question to Evangelicals:<br /><br />"Why do we find a list of the 12 apostles in the gospels, not once but several times to boot? Why are some of them never mentioned elsewhere?"Daniel Arseneaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02777466397498209312noreply@blogger.com